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01:11 PM Aug 16, 2012
San Francisco, CA
usda zone 8b

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Welcome one and all to today's launch of the Bees & Beekeeping forum. Seems fitting to start things off with a really keen beekeeper we met at the People's Garden during last year's Pollinator Week Celebration in Washington D.C. Thanks for stopping by!

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02:45 PM Aug 16, 2012
Hemingway, SC
usda zone 8a
Good to have - there is no one thing that gardeners can do with more benefit than keeping bees, IF pollinator populations have been depleted by yard-fogging neighbors, mosquito spraying, etc. This has happened in many areas.

Low bee populations first show up in aborted or curled cucumbers, squash that starts to grow, then dies, blossom drop, etc.

Many people blame these symptoms on hot weather, but that, in itself does not prevent pollination. Rather it limits the hours that bees can work before the pollen dies or the pistil becomes unreceptive. This means that you need higher concentrations of bees to get in the requisite number of bee visits early.

The other morning I noticed a squash blossom that was buzzing. Looking down into the bloom, I spotted FOUR bumblebees having a party, and two of them were buzz pollinating. I get high on that!  This is what our gardens need.

Few people realize that for multi-seeded fruits, that bees must return time and again to deliver the needed supply of pollen grains. One visit does not pollination make. 

For a good watermelon (not the tasteless, half white-seeded varieties you often buy at the store) you need 1000 grains of pollen delivered and evenly spread across the stigma of the female blossom.

So make your garden a bee sanctuary, where bees have nectar and pollen aplenty, as well as water, nesting sites, and most of all protection from being poisoned. 

You can't attract good wild bee populations; you have to build them. And for honey bees you or a beekeeping neighbor have to provide them.

Good luck, y'all!

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03:12 PM Aug 16, 2012
San Francisco, CA
usda zone 8b
@Pollinator: We couldn't have said it better! Thanks :)

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05:34 PM Aug 16, 2012
YourGardenShow.com
@Pollinator: This made a big impression on me. Many bee visits=a better watermelon. Must be true, as you say, for many other vegetables and fruits. So, we need bees and they need us. We have to give them shelter, places to grow, plants to visit, if we want the best from our gardens.

Thank you.

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05:48 PM Aug 16, 2012
Boston, MA
usda zone 6a
@The-Busy-Bee: I second that - and thanks for all the interesting info!

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02:50 PM Aug 17, 2012
Floresville, TX
usda zone 8b
@Groundskeeper:  Well said!

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07:49 PM Sep 11, 2012
Medina, OH
usda zone 5b
@Pollinator: Hi Dave...it's been quite a while since I've heard from you, glad you're still doing bees and plants. Your point is well made...so one thing gardeners could be considering is to plant some of their garden just of the bees...a pollinator part I guess I'd call it. And particularly plants that bloom early, all summer, and into the fall, so pollinators have something to eat all season long. Of course pollinators are seasonal too...some come in early, reproduce and close down for the rest of the season, others appear later in the summer, so an all summer bloom is best. 

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11:01 AM Sep 17, 2012
doi saket, Thailand
@KimFlottum: is it true that without bees we all die in 4 years. I read here:http://keepingbee.org/honey-bees-disappearing-bee-extermination/ OMG

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11:57 AM Sep 17, 2012
Medina, OH
usda zone 5b
@arsya: This statement is often heard, but it falls short of being accurate. If all bees, not just honey bees but the solitary bees, wasps, and the like all disappeared tomorrow, our diet would change, and our environment would change, certainly. Insect pollinated fruits and vegetables...much, but not all of your garden stock and other crops...for instance, berries, clovers, alfalfa, apples, plums, many nuts and the like would decline in production...some to near zero. What wouldn't change however are all the grains...soybeans, rice, wheat, oats, barley, and other crops like canola, corn, sugar cane, bananas, and more. Our diet would become much less attractive, appealing and diverse, but there would be much to eat. A different question might be, could food producers in the world change gears fast enough to feed billions of people without those foods bees help produce because we have become so dependent on them? That might be the harder question.

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01:18 PM Nov 19, 2012
Hemingway, SC
usda zone 8a
@KimFlottum: One thing not often noted is that much of the Vitamin C in our diet results from bee pollination. This alone would make the loss of bees a nutritional crisis for humanity.

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01:27 PM Nov 19, 2012
Hemingway, SC
usda zone 8a
@KimFlottum: Good to see you here, too, Kim. Your well-reasoned posts are valuable, and I'm glad you are participating.  And, yeah, this old coot is still kicking.

I don't separate my flowers from my veggies in the garden. Besides building pollinator populations, I find that many other beneficial insects increase when the garden is laced with good nectar and pollen producers.

One point not often mentioned is that pollinators like soldier beetles, syrphid flies, and others, are predators in their youth, preying on pest insects like aphids, or eating grasshopper eggs.

So interplanting flowers helps with biodiversity and that provides a lot of natural control of pests.  There are some pests that I simply don't see at all in my garden, though my neighbors have them. Now I wish this approach worked for ALL the insect pests.

Lately I've been having a serious problem with pickleworm, which has always been with us, but has simply exploded in recent years. This corresponds with the disappearance of the bats, and I think these two factors are related. I can go into my squash and cuke beds at night and see dozens of pickleworm moths at work. I think these moths used to be a prime bat food.

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08:32 PM Nov 19, 2012
YourGardenShow.com
@Pollinator: The longer I garden, the deeper it goes. Next year, I'll split my vegetable gardening half and half between a dedicated, fenced plot and the ornamental borders. The more mingled and diverse, the better.

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08:32 PM Nov 19, 2012
YourGardenShow.com
@Pollinator: The longer I garden, the deeper it goes. Next year, I'll split my vegetable gardening half and half between a dedicated, fenced plot and the ornamental borders. The more mingled and diverse, the better.

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